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		<title>By: Jason Olshefsky</title>
		<link>http://jayceland.com/blog/archive/2007/10/28/changing-to-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Olshefsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 15:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My eventual goal is to make a calendar site that meets both ends of the deal.  All your solutions offer is a way for people who collect information to collect it more easily.  The other side, though, is easy entry.  Bobby T. at the Bug Jar (or, as last I knew, Rob) has a hard enough time getting their events posted on their own website.  To ask them to migrate to the tool-of-the-day — be it Yahoo! Calendar, Google, iCal, or whatever — is just more work and therefore more resistance.

If they could send an e-mail to some address, for instance, with a message like &quot;11/10 Quitters, Hinkley&quot; and have it interpret that to mean that &quot;The QUiTTERS (of Rochester, not Boston) and Hinkley will be playing at the Bug Jar on Saturday November 10, 2007.  Doors at 9:30 p.m., 21-and-over, $6 cover&quot; then they might be interested.  Now to me that would be a tool.  I&#039;ve got a bunch of other ideas for it, but so far open standards have only really helped the end-user of the data, not the person responsible for it.  Unless, of course, they are well-versed on the technical end.

So, if I&#039;m going to bother changing JayceLand at all to support such standards, I want to do it all the way and set up an architecture to do it right.  WordPress solved the headache of &quot;crap, now it&#039;s Wednesday and I need to crank out some kind of an essay.&quot;  It also helped resolve updating of the archive page as that&#039;s now done mostly automatically.  I can see the elements I&#039;ve been adding to make it useful to let me do updates easier as well.

Next is the calendar stuff.  The next big hurdle is looking at some 45 Rochester calendars and plucking what I want.  I&#039;d rather have that be easier for me to do myself, then to open it for others to add events, and then — using those swell standards — to make it easier for me to pick what I want to do that week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My eventual goal is to make a calendar site that meets both ends of the deal.  All your solutions offer is a way for people who collect information to collect it more easily.  The other side, though, is easy entry.  Bobby T. at the Bug Jar (or, as last I knew, Rob) has a hard enough time getting their events posted on their own website.  To ask them to migrate to the tool-of-the-day — be it Yahoo! Calendar, Google, iCal, or whatever — is just more work and therefore more resistance.</p>
<p>If they could send an e-mail to some address, for instance, with a message like &#8220;11/10 Quitters, Hinkley&#8221; and have it interpret that to mean that &#8220;The QUiTTERS (of Rochester, not Boston) and Hinkley will be playing at the Bug Jar on Saturday November 10, 2007.  Doors at 9:30 p.m., 21-and-over, $6 cover&#8221; then they might be interested.  Now to me that would be a tool.  I&#8217;ve got a bunch of other ideas for it, but so far open standards have only really helped the end-user of the data, not the person responsible for it.  Unless, of course, they are well-versed on the technical end.</p>
<p>So, if I&#8217;m going to bother changing JayceLand at all to support such standards, I want to do it all the way and set up an architecture to do it right.  WordPress solved the headache of &#8220;crap, now it&#8217;s Wednesday and I need to crank out some kind of an essay.&#8221;  It also helped resolve updating of the archive page as that&#8217;s now done mostly automatically.  I can see the elements I&#8217;ve been adding to make it useful to let me do updates easier as well.</p>
<p>Next is the calendar stuff.  The next big hurdle is looking at some 45 Rochester calendars and plucking what I want.  I&#8217;d rather have that be easier for me to do myself, then to open it for others to add events, and then — using those swell standards — to make it easier for me to pick what I want to do that week.</p>
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		<title>By: John Lam</title>
		<link>http://jayceland.com/blog/archive/2007/10/28/changing-to-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>John Lam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, seriously now, i actually do run calendars, but not all necessarily my own, for example, along the sidebar of my &lt;a href=&quot;http://claimID.com/jlam&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;online vitae&lt;/a&gt;, and socially networked sites such as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.facebook.com/p/Jayceland/652552742&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;facebook&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://upcoming.yahoo.com/user/12468/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Upcoming&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.last.fm/user/jlam/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Last.fm&lt;/a&gt;. In addition, i try to maintain the &lt;a href=&quot;http://ROCwiki.org/Calendars&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rochester Wiki guide to local calendars&lt;/a&gt;. The point here is not so much to run my own calendar for others event, but to help people find events otherwise not easily found via search, and to encourage the propagation of events through social networks, like they do through word-of-mouth, rather than through top-down advertising. I had thought you would like such appropriate uses of technology for supporting grass-roots and independent projects and would have long adopted them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, seriously now, i actually do run calendars, but not all necessarily my own, for example, along the sidebar of my <a href="http://claimID.com/jlam" rel="nofollow">online vitae</a>, and socially networked sites such as <a href="http://www.facebook.com/p/Jayceland/652552742" rel="nofollow">facebook</a>, <a href="http://upcoming.yahoo.com/user/12468/" rel="nofollow">Upcoming</a>, <a href="http://www.last.fm/user/jlam/" rel="nofollow">Last.fm</a>. In addition, i try to maintain the <a href="http://ROCwiki.org/Calendars" rel="nofollow">Rochester Wiki guide to local calendars</a>. The point here is not so much to run my own calendar for others event, but to help people find events otherwise not easily found via search, and to encourage the propagation of events through social networks, like they do through word-of-mouth, rather than through top-down advertising. I had thought you would like such appropriate uses of technology for supporting grass-roots and independent projects and would have long adopted them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Olshefsky</title>
		<link>http://jayceland.com/blog/archive/2007/10/28/changing-to-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Olshefsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see ...</description>
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		<title>By: John Lam</title>
		<link>http://jayceland.com/blog/archive/2007/10/28/changing-to-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>John Lam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, i usually dislike smiley emoticons, but i think whatever tongue-in-cheekiness i had got lost in translation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, i usually dislike smiley emoticons, but i think whatever tongue-in-cheekiness i had got lost in translation.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Olshefsky</title>
		<link>http://jayceland.com/blog/archive/2007/10/28/changing-to-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Olshefsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you mean &quot;worst practices&quot; as in &quot;snappy and responsive on old computers&quot; then yes, guilty as charged.

I installed WordPress for me — so it&#039;s easier for me to compose the weekly essay and so I could have a blog under my own control.  But thanks for trying to claim that it was your influence.

And instead of barking orders at people to try and force them to do things for you, perhaps it would be better and less frustrating for you to run your own calendar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you mean &#8220;worst practices&#8221; as in &#8220;snappy and responsive on old computers&#8221; then yes, guilty as charged.</p>
<p>I installed WordPress for me — so it&#8217;s easier for me to compose the weekly essay and so I could have a blog under my own control.  But thanks for trying to claim that it was your influence.</p>
<p>And instead of barking orders at people to try and force them to do things for you, perhaps it would be better and less frustrating for you to run your own calendar.</p>
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		<title>By: John Lam</title>
		<link>http://jayceland.com/blog/archive/2007/10/28/changing-to-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>John Lam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 03:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s about time! For all these years, i&#039;ve wanted comment on posts, but could not in a coherent fashion without a comment mechanism, trackback, or even permalinks to the specific post until the following week! By then i no longer either cared or could remember what i meant to post. I suggested use blogging tools, and specifically as opensource, Wordpress, but all i heard back was, “I don&#039;t care if others don&#039;t find it useful. It&#039;s just for me and for events i want to track.” For a un/blog Jayceland slid toward worst practices.

Now, bring the calendar up-to-standards with &lt;a href=&quot;http://microformats.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;microformats&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://microformats.org/wiki/hCalendar&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;hCalendar&lt;/a&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s about time! For all these years, i&#8217;ve wanted comment on posts, but could not in a coherent fashion without a comment mechanism, trackback, or even permalinks to the specific post until the following week! By then i no longer either cared or could remember what i meant to post. I suggested use blogging tools, and specifically as opensource, WordPress, but all i heard back was, “I don&#8217;t care if others don&#8217;t find it useful. It&#8217;s just for me and for events i want to track.” For a un/blog Jayceland slid toward worst practices.</p>
<p>Now, bring the calendar up-to-standards with <a href="http://microformats.org" rel="nofollow">microformats</a> and <a href="http://microformats.org/wiki/hCalendar" rel="nofollow">hCalendar</a>!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Olshefsky</title>
		<link>http://jayceland.com/blog/archive/2007/10/28/changing-to-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Olshefsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops!  I&#039;m still working through the bugs of trying to allow WordPress to work and at the same time not trample the old site.  (For those who didn&#039;t see, Sammy got the blog home page rather than the regular JayceLand page.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops!  I&#8217;m still working through the bugs of trying to allow WordPress to work and at the same time not trample the old site.  (For those who didn&#8217;t see, Sammy got the blog home page rather than the regular JayceLand page.)</p>
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		<title>By: Sammy Eisenhower</title>
		<link>http://jayceland.com/blog/archive/2007/10/28/changing-to-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-2</link>
		<dc:creator>Sammy Eisenhower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Egads. What happened? I rely on Jayceland!! I read it every week!!! What happened? Where are the Weekly archives? Where is the current Week? Please change back to the old format! Please don&#039;t stop the weekly listings!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Egads. What happened? I rely on Jayceland!! I read it every week!!! What happened? Where are the Weekly archives? Where is the current Week? Please change back to the old format! Please don&#8217;t stop the weekly listings!</p>
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